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Unpacking Adoption without Apology | Francine Apy Featured on The Dare to Declare Podcast

I recently had the privilege of joining Debbi Sluys on her podcast, Dare to Declare, for a conversation that felt both tender and transformative. We spoke about something close to my heart: adoption—not just as an experience, but as a lifelong journey that deserves more space in our everyday conversations.

As a mom to three adopted sons and an aunt to five incredible adopted nieces, I’ve seen the beauty and the complexity that adoption can hold. In this episode, I shared what inspired Brianna’s Brave Day at School, why language matters so deeply in adoption, and how my mother’s story of survival still shapes the way I show up in the world.

We talked about faith, family, and the power of storytelling—and why I believe love is powerful, but sometimes, love needs a team.

Whether you’re living adoption, loving someone who is, or simply want to grow in empathy and understanding, I hope you’ll tune in. Let’s keep bringing adoption into the light, together.




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